As part of our ongoing learning focus on what it takes to fund and drive systemic change, we recently spoke to Letícia Ishibashi, Head of Programmes (Migration) at Paul Hamlyn Foundation about the new vision for their Migration Fund, which envisions a radical alternative to the existing hostile immigration system – one where “everyone is free to move and no one is forced to move”. We spoke with Letícia about how Paul Hamlyn developed this vision together with those working in migration and related fields, how their funding processes changed as a result and where she sees the Foundation’s role in the fight for an immigration system rooted in justice, solidarity and freedom.