For the last few months, our learning programme has focused on what it takes for funders to support and enable systemic change to happen. Systemic change is at the heart of London Funders’ collaborations – we have been working with different funders and civil society groups over the years to test, support and observe what it takes to tackle underlying systemic inequality facing Londoners. One of those collaborations is Propel – a long-term funder collaboration coordinated by London Funders, which involves 12 funders, 5 equity infrastructure organisations and now, 131 funded organisations. Through Propel, London Legal Support Trust along with City Bridge Foundation, Trust for London, the National Lottery Community Fund, The Legal Education Foundation and GLA have been working with advice organisations on the Advice Workforce Development Fund (AWDF) to address the root causes of workforce challenges in the advice sector. To help deepen our understanding of what it takes to both fund change and change funding, we spoke with Nezahat Cihan, Chief Executive of the London Legal Support Trust and some of the advice organisations working to tackle the root causes of the advice workforce crisis, including Bruna Boscaini (Director at Indoamerican Refugee and Migrant Organisation), Jerry During, (CEO and Co-founder of Money A+E), Tracey Lazard (CEO of Inclusion London) and Liz Mercer (Associate Business Consultant at Inclusion London).